I know lots of folks were interested in this machine. WLL just posted their overview and sales video. It looks like a lot of new features on top of the Pro 300 and an interesting option right at the $2000 mark for those not wanting a chrome E61 machine.
I didn't expect such a revamp to the PID – full control of both boilers, scheduled daily on/off time (not just eco mode), barista lights, and programmable preinfusion.
I still think etching "MOVE" into the front detracts from the appearance, and the silicone portafilter attachment gives a cheap vibe, but that's easily replaceable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWAB7LA64sw
by MrGomez_14
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Good looking but definitely an L for 2k… Vibration pump and no alternate mode to very outdated brew-by-time.
I have been waiting for this one. Was about to order the last Go last week but think I am going to hold off for the Move. Just need to figure out who to preorder through and what grinder to pair it with
Great review from WLL as usual.
Seems like it will be the new standard for the $2,000 DB machine class. Faster warm up time and better pre-infusion options than the Silvia Pro X. Dual pressure gauges for steam and brew boiler. Actual display for programming, and has usable automatic on and off feature. Programmable timed shots if you’re into that.
I think the only negative takeaway I saw from the video was slow steaming performance for the price range. 27 seconds for 5oz of milk is poor for a $2k machine. This gives me a little concern about back to back milk drinks with the Move, not sure if that steam boiler is going to keep up. For reference, the $500 Gaggia Classic Pro completed the same steam test in 25 seconds. In the $2k and under price range, the heat exchanger Pro 500 completed the test in 15 seconds (with the same 2 hole steam tip), Silvia Pro X also in 15 seconds, and Breville Dual Boiler in 17 seconds.
This isn’t a negative, more of a personal preference, but during the scace test it looked like it was brewing at 9.5 or almost 10 bar in the group. That’s on the high side, but I think most Profitec machines brew at higher pressures.
Overall, looks like a great machine that will be selling out for this price range.
I have a $3,000 budget for just an espresso machine, should I choose the Profitec Move over the Lelit Bianca V3? Or just max my budget for the Bianca? For my first espresso machine.
Do a search on whole latte love before doing business with that company.
I liked the new look for the go, but to me this looks cheap for a 2k machine. Also (for better or worse depending on your taste) more breville-y.
What’s the expected lifespan on something like this? With all the new sensors and electronics on newer machines, I’d be worried about the number of potential failure points that could brick the machine. An iPhone lasts maybe 4 years. Can a microchip constantly surrounded by pressurized hot water and finely ground coffee last longer?
That was less of a review and more of a sales pitch. A review goes over the good and the bad. This was the kind of overview that a good salesman does. Honestly, I was set on buying it until I saw the video, but it is still on my short list.
The stream wand isn’t the deal breaker for me, but why have a duel boiler if the wand is going to be underpowered? The main reason to have a double boiler is the on-demand stream. I don’t even mind the vib pumps. Hell, the Decent uses Vib pumps. The thing that bothered me was the shot by time. What modern designed machine in this price point is still using shot by time?
My last point, and this is simply a matter of taste, but I really think the Move is the most beautiful machine at any price point, with the possible exception of the Victoria Arduino Eagle One Prima.
I plan on buying one of these and have already bought a traditional replacement Profitec metal badge which I’m going to fix over the Move etching. Because I agree I don’t like the branding on this machine the old badge looks so much nicer.